Ummm, the Fred and the Etape du Dales. I like them both but which one is better? There is only one way to find out. FIGHT!
-Administration-
FW 10
Personal and efficient. When I moved house I sent them a change of address and they responded immediately. I sent them an email after the event and again I got a quick reply. They put the results up on their website on the day.
EdD 8
Entries are made online through the SiEntries system which is easy enough to use. The website could do with updating but they were unlucky as it seems they had a malicious attack on their website a few days before the event. I haven't seen the results on the website yet.
-On the day organisation-
FW 9
It was good that you could register the day before. That made it easy to get started on race day. Marshalling was excellent supported by the police. One roundabout didn't seem to have an arrow. The food at the end was tremendous (great cakes!).
EdD 9
Busy on the race morning due to everyone registering and starting. They were well organised though and it only took 10 minutes or so to get started. The route was well signed and marshalled at key points. I don't think the police got involved. There was quite a queue for food so I didn't get any but I am sure it was great. I did get a T-shirt!
-Checkpoints-
FW 9
2 checkpoints. Dibbing in was easy. Food and drinks well stocked.
EdD 9
4 checkpoints. I thought in one way this was an inconvenience and a bit excessive but it did provide an extra opportunity to refuel and get help. The timing tag was tricky to find as it was round my neck and took a bit of digging to retrieve.
-Support (local or friends/family of riders)-
FW 10
The closest I will come to the TdF feeling. Good crowds on the climbs shouting encouragement; Children really getting involved; a bagpiper at one point; vehicle drivers very considerate - I really felt like the local community embraced the event.
EdD 7
Not a lot of support out on the course, mind you the weather wasn't great so I can't blame people. I am sad to say I did see some very aggressive driving with drivers impatient to get round groups.
-Location-
FW 10
Stunning. I'm not very well traveled but this must rate as one of the most beautiful places on earth.
EdD 10
Stunning. See comment for Fred.
-Road surfaces-
FW 7
Very rough in places. One descent was very rutted and I'm surprised the bike didn't disintegrate because it was vibrating so violently.
EdD 10
Very good. Can't say I noticed too much wrong although there were so many cattle grids and one little stream to spin across (I liked that bit!)
-Climbing-
FW 10
Garmin shows 3598m total. Hardknott is the only hill I have had to walk since I got a bike with gears (at the end of Jan this year). The thing is that Hardknott starts when you have about 95 miles in the legs. The climbing doesn't stop until about 2 miles from the finish. It has the long drag of Kirkstone and the severity of Hardknott/Honister.
EdD 9.5
Garmin shows 3334m total. Long climbs that really do go on and on and on. Coal Road is a beast. A great challenge and I am just pleased that I managed to ride all the way.
-Descending-
FW 7
Like being thrown off the side of a mountain. Usually terrifyingly steep with brakes needed from the top. Not much fun for me. My highest speed was 59.5km/h (thanks to the brakes).
EdD 10
Thrilling and fast. Highest speed 64km/h
-Difficulty rating-
FW 10
Very hard and the extreme of Hardknott at the end is so cruel (but I like it!). The climbing starts within a mile of the start continues right to the very end. I'll be back I hope to do better.
EdD 9.5
Very hard. Looking back at the Garmin it seems the first 30km is more or less all climbing to varying degrees. The wind was an added factor on the day. There is a decent run in of about 20km after the last climb which is easy enough but I was cooked at this point. I'm not sure any part of the course is 'flat'.
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Total FW 82 EdD 82
It is an accident that the scores came out the same but I'm pleased they did. Two challenging events and I have nothing but admiration for those that organise them and those that complete them! This year the Fred had the advantage of the fine weather but we'll see how they stack up next year if I get the chance to go again.